{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcarnegiepolitika.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Frussian-society-has-gotten-used-to-war-P3qDnNhr","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"Learned Indifference: How Russian Society Has Gotten Used to War","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/e92ef3ae-3ad1-4d67-b2f9-73bff7274d97/f253d887-8f8c-46e9-8404-a46503a22f0c/cplogo.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/801f630f-c94f-4fe4-8fe8-c21c404106a8\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"Learned Indifference: How Russian Society Has Gotten Used to War\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"Carnegie Politika podcast host Alex Gabuev is joined by Denis Volkov, director of the Levada Center in Moscow, and Andrei Kolesnikov, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center, to discuss their new paper for Carnegie Endowment, \"Alternate Reality: How Russian Society Learned to Stop Worrying About the War.\""}