{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fconversationsonstartups.com%2Fepisodes%2Fpay-hakrgPmB","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"23 - Pay ","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/4606a882-8887-446d-9774-9ebf346d86dc/acb9214a-2ef7-4c94-9ffd-0b102789a39f/screen-shot-2022-07-28-at-6-25-55-am.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/829498c2-8226-465b-bf69-3a49ad1a854f\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"23 - Pay \" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"Thirty-five bucks for the most recognizable logo on the planet? Yep, that's what a famous founder Glenn talks about in this episode paid for his fledgling company's first logo. Not a bad deal. The kind of deal you should be looking for if you're the founder of a bootstrapped entity. But what about pay for you and your cofounders and for your early staff if you're a funded startup? Stocks? Cash? A mix? Listen in as Doug and Glenn take on the - often thorny - issue of pay. "}