{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhello-chaos.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fep-175-cynthia-johnson-MZQGWBVC","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"Ep. 175 Cynthia Johnson","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/f416d843-c024-4ad6-9b80-d86f6c0d4e47/a6383ec3-1b5f-4637-9d82-f89530dafb43/hello-chaos-podcast-cover-3000x3000.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/c3c9e9ed-82dc-4897-a77c-eb83c56d72b1\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"Ep. 175 Cynthia Johnson\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"Some founders build brands. Cynthia Johnson builds truth.\nAfter years in the agency grind, she walked away to start Bell & Ivy and flipped the script on what branding really means. Forget the glossy image. Cynthia shows how real growth starts when founders stop chasing perception and start leading with perspective.\nShe’s been through acquisitions, chaos, burnout, and rebirth, and she’s learned what every entrepreneur eventually figures out. Authenticity isn’t a strategy. It’s survival.\n\nHere are three takeaways every founder will relate to:"}