{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmind-wide-open.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fdavid-kessler-part-2-5gMnAaDH","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"David Kessler (Part Two)","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/ce1f5524-4cf8-41f0-a394-18ccf2369b9c/ee257b3f-c34f-482c-9d1b-9f5e20f0408c/2021-01-mwo-simplecast-thumbnail-v7.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/b53da5f5-3f31-48db-a202-f5077e2e61da\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"David Kessler (Part Two)\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"In the second installment of this interview, David Kessler, the world's foremost expert on healing after loss, joins Mind Wide Open to discuss grief and what he has coined as the sixth stage of grief: finding meaning. Lily and her mom, Susan Silver, have turned to his work for support for many years, making for a poignant and full circle conversation between Lily and David.\n \nFor more information, guest bios, and resources, go to www.mindwideopenproject.com\n\nFind Lily on Instagram @lilycornellsilver \n\nOriginally aired SEPTEMBER 29, 2020"}