{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Foutoforder.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fdivided-we-stand-5_86aoom","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"Divided We Stand","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/5c1086ab-b966-4516-8e06-a31167352a58/4c95b50c-2d69-4235-8ed0-afb7311a220a/out-of-order-logo-final-01.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/5d83a3fd-5966-4d25-9092-58a75f373dcf\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"Divided We Stand\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"With election season ramping up and political divisions on display, two veterans of U.S. politics-- Margaret Carlson, Columnist at The Daily Beast, and Mitch Landrieu, the former Mayor of New Orleans and founder of E Pluribus Unum--  joined Out of Order for an insightful conversation on the state of U.S. political discourse, how society became so fractured and where some solutions might be found. Above all: Is there a way out of this mess?"}