{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fphenomena.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fleading-with-perspective-with-larry-mcgrath-1_YV4E_Q","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"Leading with Perspective – with Larry McGrath","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/9d011c56-478e-493b-8c2a-0cb39be9d4eb/771269ee-6206-4c2b-beb3-ac5d2e9452af/s3e8_larry_mcgrath.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"","height":200,"description":"What makes a conversation feel natural rather than scripted? What kills it in three seconds? What makes someone feel understood versus processed? \n\nIn this episode, we are joined by Larry McGrath, a User Research Lead at Amazon, where he has spent the past four years working on Alexa Plus, Amazon’s conversational AI platform, to talk about how to build AI that actually works for people.\n\nWith deep roots in the social sciences, Larry has dedicated his career to understanding how sociology, anthropology, and the study of conversation can shape the design of AI products that feel more natural, responsive, and human. \n\nIn conversation with ReD’s Tamara Moellenberg, Larry walks us through the layers of the AI product stack and makes the case for why social scientists belong at every level, from how we design the rhythm of a conversation to how we align an AI’s values for coherence, not just the avoidance of bias.\n\nHe also reflects on what product managers most often get wrong: losing sight of the human need they set out to meet in the first place.\n\nHost: Tamara Moellenberg\nGuest: Larry McGrath\nIntroduced by Matthew Janney"}