{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcast.edstetzer.com%2Fepisodes%2Fdavid-kinnaman-fluency-is-not-authority-ozzFBWkW","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"David Kinnaman: Fluency Is Not Authority ","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/7c8e14e6-69fa-45b7-ad44-531ec8f8bb9c/2e87eced-9150-48d9-9d7d-6c6ea77cdf64/cropped_1788534259248.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/acfc308a-bc5b-42a6-9be2-e71adf04ba47\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"David Kinnaman: Fluency Is Not Authority \" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"David Kinnaman has data showing practicing Christians are adopting AI faster than their pastors, and he argues the gap is a pastoral problem.\n\nKinnaman, CEO of Barna Group, walks Ed Stetzer through research placing practicing Christians ahead of the US adult average on regular AI use, and noticeably ahead of their own church leaders. Ed presses on why that gap exists, on what churches owe people who want a theology of technology rather than tips and tricks, and on what it meant when ChatGPT told him it was praying for him before surgery. Kinnaman ultimately argues that these tools give us fluency, but fluency is not authority.\n\nDavid Kinnaman is CEO of Barna Group and the author of unChristian, You Lost Me, Good Faith, and Faith For Exiles."}