{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcast.edstetzer.com%2Fepisodes%2Frich-villodas-your-certainty-may-be-anxiety-apuPFJ1T","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"Rich Villodas: Your Certainty May Be Anxiety","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/7c8e14e6-69fa-45b7-ad44-531ec8f8bb9c/1e48ffce-6d12-4e1d-af59-4f0824738514/cropped_1789146475136.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"","height":200,"description":"Rich Villodas believes that the pastors most certain they aren’t anxious are often the ones least able to tolerate disagreement.\nVillodas argues that a pastor's central task is building a community where disagreement doesn’t inevitably lead to disconnection. He claims most pastors fail to accomplish this work because they’re anxious, or unable to hold tension and distress. Stetzer tests whether that tolerance for disagreement is just softness or evidence of convictions left unpreached, but Villodas argues that hard teaching survives when a church builds several formational spaces around it. He then turns the same standard on pastors themselves, saying that the average pastor is living off someone else's formation.\nRich Villodas has led his Queens congregation for 12 years and runs an eight-month formation cohort serving 60 to 75 pastors annually. His third book, The Narrow Path, was published in July 2024."}