{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstrongfeelings.co%2Fepisodes%2Funapologetic-women-54e0e2e7","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"Unapologetic Women","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/46860d/46860d16-d6be-41c0-9b06-6752b74ac613/1d8e256e-9e6d-4a9d-9c0e-abc94156b75a/1544569795-artwork.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"","height":200,"description":"It’s the very first episode of No, You Go! Jenn, Katel, and Sara get together to talk about the itch to get out of a professional rut and start something new—whether that’s changing jobs, launching a company, building a side gig, or maybe even…idk….starting a podcast?\n\n> Fuck it, let’s just do it. Let’s be unapologetic women asking to do work, and to be paid fairly for it. \n> —Becca Gurney, co-founder, [Design Choice](http://www.designchoice.studio/)\n\nRead on for more of what we covered, and read the full transcript for all the, like, verbatim quotes, you know?\n\n## Show notes\n\nFirst, we tell the story of how No, You Go got started:\n\n- Sara has an idea, but forgets that Austin Kleon already wrote a book called Show Your Work and narrowly avoids totally ripping him off.\n- Jenn shares what it’s like to trade a thousand side projects for some stability—and, oh yeah, one super-cool baby.\n- Katel opens up about how working at home alone can get, well, lonely—and asks us to join her “awesome after-school kickass club.”\n- We all fully embrace the athleisure lifestyle.\n\nNext, we kick off the show—and 2018—by hearing how four women who made big changes last year knew it was time for something new:\n\n- [Becca Gurney](http://beccagurney.com/), co-founder of [Design Choice](http://www.designchoice.studio/), tells us how the pay gap in the [AIGA Design Census](https://designcensus.org/) plus the 2016 election turned her from freelance designer to outspoken advocate for equality in design.\n- [Jenn Schiffer](http://jennmoney.biz/), community engineer for Fog Creek’s [Glitch](https://glitch.com/) platform, shares how fear kept her stuck in a rut and not doing her best work—until an opportunity to build community for other engineers brought her life back.\n- [Lara Hogan](http://larahogan.me/), co-founder of [Where With All](http://where-with-all.com/), describes how meeting her now-business-partner led her away from managing engineering teams and toward building a consulting business.\n- [Mina Markham](http://mina.codes/), senior front-end architect at Slack (and creator of the famed [Pantsuit design system](https://medium.com/git-out-the-vote/pantsuit-the-hillary-clinton-ui-pattern-library-238e9bf06b54#.c6rnwv18f) used by the Hillary Clinton campaign), describes trusting her gut to guide her through three new jobs and three cross-country moves in just three years.\n\n### Also in this episode\n\n- Archie’s hair, Cheryl Blossom’s lips, and why [Riverdale](http://www.cwtv.com/shows/riverdale/) is our favorite CW teen drama\n- Shout outs to [Call Your Girlfriend](http://www.callyourgirlfriend.com/) and [Shine Theory](https://www.thecut.com/2013/05/shine-theory-how-to-stop-female-competition.html)\n- Jenn’s rad [formula for speaking fees](http://www.thenerdary.net/post/84544230452/a-formula-for-speaking-fees) post from the Nerdary\n- [California Style Sheets](https://medium.com/cool-code-pal/a-call-for-web-developers-to-deprecate-their-css-1f6430781393) forever\n- Lara Hogan’s [Donut Manifesto](http://larahogan.me/donuts/)\n- Our endless devotion to [Olivia Pope wine glasses](https://www.crateandbarrel.com/camille-23-oz.-red-wine-glass/s544517)\n- Final tips from designer and educator [Sam Kapila](http://samkapila.com/)\n\nMany thanks to [The Diaphone](https://thediaphone.bandcamp.com/) for the use of their song, Maths, in our theme music!\n\n_[![](http://www.noyougoshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/codepen-horizontal-log)](https://codepen.io/)_\n\n"}