{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthe-ezra-klein-show.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fderek-thompson-marc-dunkelman-aGEExiyR","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"What We Got Right — and Wrong — in ‘Abundance’","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/47913775-afcf-4643-935f-31f1dcc86cfb/6a0e5e15-04a3-47c8-9c50-2f2fe8e84437/teks-album-20art-3000px.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"","height":200,"description":"“Abundance” came out a little over a year ago. It’s been exciting — and a little disorienting — seeing how it’s rippled out into the world, and the ways it’s been embraced and debated and critiqued. So I wanted to take a moment to talk through what’s really happened in the last year – with Derek Thompson, my “Abundance” co-author, and Marc Dunkelman, whose book “Why Nothing Works” came out around the same time, and circles the same ideas.\n\nWhat has the abundance movement actually achieved in the last year? Where has it fallen short? And what have the three of us learned from our critics?\n\nMentioned:\n\nEzra is moderating a forum on housing and affordability with some of the top California gubernatorial candidates. The event is on Friday, May 8, in Oakland, CA. You can buy tickets here. Use the code EKSHOW for 20 percent off your order.\n\nAbundance by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson\n\nWhy Nothing Works by Marc J. Dunkelman\n\nDerek Thompson’s Substack\n\nThe Power Elite by C. Wright Mills\n\nThe Power Broker by Robert A. Caro\n\n“The Most Expensive Mile of Subway Track on Earth” by Brian M. Rosenthal\n\n“Why Are Palantir and OpenAI Scared of Alex Bores?” by The Ezra Klein Show\n\n“The Anti-Social Century” by Derek Thompson\n\nBowling Alone by Robert D. Putnam\n\nThe Permanent Problem by Brink Lindsey\n\n“Bernie Sanders: ‘There Ain’t Much of a Democratic Party” by Bernie Sanders and David Leonhardt\n\nBook Recommendations:\n\nMaking a New Deal by Lizabeth Cohen\n\nStuck by Yoni Appelbaum\n\nCadillac Desert by Marc Reisner\n\nMere Christianity by C. S. Lewis\n\nThe Secret History by Donna Tartt\n\nBlood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy, Narrated by Richard Poe\n\nThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.\n\nYou can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.\n\nThis episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Annika Robbins and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our recording engineer is Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Marie Cascione, Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin, Emma Kehlbeck, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Lauren Reddy. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Brianna Johnson."}