{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthe-mamas-den.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fthe-love-comes-back-41rtveQJ","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"The Love Comes Back with Donna Jordan","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/987f929b-784b-423e-8a7e-37aacd40f8ea/8996b468-6ed5-4240-baa0-039438e31017/mamas-20den-202025-203000x3000-20cover-20art.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"","height":200,"description":"There are mothers… and then there are matriarchs.\n\nThis week in the Den, we sit down with Donna Jordan — lifelong visual artist, educator, proud grandmother, mother of three — and yes, the mother of Michael B. Jordan.\n\nBut this conversation? It’s about her.\n\nDonna shares what it really looked like to raise three creative children while nurturing her own artistry — creating art between caregiving and callbacks working in hand-painted silk and design to help support her family, and making sure her children saw her creating even when life was full.\n\nShe opens up about being diagnosed with lupus in 1997, navigating fear and uncertainty, and “faking it” through pain so her children wouldn’t carry the weight of her illness. She talks about what it means to mother through invisible disease, to show up when your body doesn’t want to, and how watching her push through shaped her children’s empathy and work ethic.\n\nAnd now? We see the fruit.\n\nHer children don’t just succeed — they show up. They place her art on sets. They manage her business. They protect the woman she is and the legacy she built quietly for decades.\n\nThis episode is about reciprocity.\nAbout raising children who return the love.\nAbout taking your “$10” for yourself.\nAbout reclaiming your time — at any age.\n\nIf you’ve ever wondered whether your sacrifices matter… this one will sit with you.\n\nKeep up with Donna Jordan on IG: @dj_kree8tive\n\nThe Mamas are building our community and ways to keep in touch with you. Share your email address here: https://tinyurl.com/MamasDen\nMake sure you connect with our Mamas on IG: @themamasdenpodcast\n\nAshley - @watermeloneggrolls\nCodie - @codieco \nMelanie - @melaniefiona"}