{"href":"https://api.simplecast.com/oembed?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwe-are-still-here.simplecast.com%2Fepisodes%2Fwhats-it-mean-e8F_5moK","width":444,"version":"1.0","type":"rich","title":"What Does It Even Mean?","thumbnail_width":300,"thumbnail_url":"https://image.simplecastcdn.com/images/25744a04-04ae-4b49-93fd-9a1148cedc4f/b3084299-1cd4-44be-95fb-9233de7edc90/cropped_1789334615391.jpg","thumbnail_height":300,"provider_url":"https://simplecast.com","provider_name":"Simplecast","html":"<iframe src=\"https://player.simplecast.com/d7e3659a-1282-4957-834b-cfbbf64d897f\" height=\"200\" width=\"100%\" title=\"What Does It Even Mean?\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"></iframe>","height":200,"description":"A sauna conversation turns into a studio one, as Rene brings Bruce a question that's been sitting with her: what's the real difference between Jesus, Jesus Christ, and Christ Jesus?\n\nFrom there they work through the Trinity, refinement through fire, and the difference between being a peacemaker and a peacekeeper. Along the way, they wrestle with what happens when doubt shows up in the middle of faith, anchored by two stories: three men who walked into a furnace without a guaranteed rescue, and a Pope who rode out alone to meet the worst barbarian in history.\n\nBecause maybe having questions doesn't mean you've left faith.\n\nMaybe you can question God without leaving His presence.\n\nYou were never broken. You're being forged."}